1 00:00:06,300 --> 00:00:08,100 In the criminal justice system 2 00:00:08,170 --> 00:00:11,970 the people are represented by two separate yet equally important groups, 3 00:00:12,040 --> 00:00:13,910 the police who investigate crime 4 00:00:13,980 --> 00:00:16,770 and the district attorneys who prosecute the offenders. 5 00:00:16,850 --> 00:00:18,280 These are their stories. 6 00:00:19,710 --> 00:00:21,110 So, how was school today? 7 00:00:21,180 --> 00:00:22,340 Good! 8 00:00:22,420 --> 00:00:23,610 Only good? 9 00:00:23,690 --> 00:00:25,980 No! It was great! 10 00:00:26,050 --> 00:00:27,580 And tomorrow will be? 11 00:00:27,660 --> 00:00:29,090 Even better! 12 00:00:34,500 --> 00:00:36,990 Hang on, guys. I'll go get Mommy. 13 00:00:45,270 --> 00:00:46,330 Joy? 14 00:00:58,890 --> 00:01:00,180 Joy? 15 00:01:04,990 --> 00:01:07,360 Joy Johnson. Blunt force to the head. 16 00:01:07,960 --> 00:01:09,430 Based on lividity and body temp, 17 00:01:09,500 --> 00:01:12,090 I put time of death between 12:00 and 2:00. 18 00:01:12,170 --> 00:01:14,400 Looks like a palm print in the blood over there. 19 00:01:14,470 --> 00:01:15,990 The trophy's the murder weapon? 20 00:01:16,070 --> 00:01:17,330 Looks like. 21 00:01:17,410 --> 00:01:19,000 Special Athletics. 22 00:01:20,080 --> 00:01:22,340 I left work at 3:00 to pick up the kids. 23 00:01:23,240 --> 00:01:25,410 On Thursdays we put the young ones in day care 24 00:01:25,480 --> 00:01:27,510 so my wife can have a few hours off. 25 00:01:27,920 --> 00:01:29,580 Was anything missing from the house? 26 00:01:29,650 --> 00:01:34,020 I kept some money, maybe $8,000, in the desk for emergencies. 27 00:01:34,390 --> 00:01:35,980 A neighbor told the responding officers 28 00:01:36,060 --> 00:01:39,750 that he saw a bouncy Hispanic woman leaving the house around noon. 29 00:01:39,890 --> 00:01:41,560 Bouncy? What does that even mean? 30 00:01:41,630 --> 00:01:43,220 Excuse me. I'm sorry. 31 00:01:43,300 --> 00:01:46,100 Larry, I can't find Olivia's ladybug pillow. 32 00:01:46,170 --> 00:01:47,190 She's throwing a fit. 33 00:01:47,270 --> 00:01:48,630 Look in the van. 34 00:01:48,940 --> 00:01:50,730 Or sometimes Henry takes it. 35 00:01:51,570 --> 00:01:52,630 She's our babysitter. 36 00:01:52,710 --> 00:01:55,010 She's got the kids stashed at a neighbor's. 37 00:01:55,080 --> 00:01:59,040 Did your kids see any of what's inside, your wife? 38 00:01:59,310 --> 00:02:00,410 No, thank God. 39 00:02:01,120 --> 00:02:02,610 I went in ahead. 40 00:02:02,880 --> 00:02:04,350 They waited in the van. 41 00:02:04,420 --> 00:02:06,280 Your kids, they're all special needs? 42 00:02:06,420 --> 00:02:09,620 Yeah. When we realized we couldn't get pregnant, 43 00:02:09,690 --> 00:02:12,490 we adopted a beautiful little girl with Down Syndrome. 44 00:02:12,760 --> 00:02:14,250 We just kept going. 45 00:02:14,330 --> 00:02:15,560 Nine times? 46 00:02:15,630 --> 00:02:19,290 Ten. Our oldest, Tim, is in high school. 47 00:02:20,070 --> 00:02:22,200 He's autistic, high-performing. 48 00:02:22,640 --> 00:02:24,130 He should be home by now. 49 00:02:24,910 --> 00:02:26,670 Looks like he's been home already. 50 00:02:27,010 --> 00:02:29,670 There's a yellow book bag in there with his name on it. 51 00:02:32,480 --> 00:02:33,570 Dad? 52 00:02:35,450 --> 00:02:36,970 Mom's dead. 53 00:03:32,840 --> 00:03:36,570 I left school after fourth period and walked home. 54 00:03:36,640 --> 00:03:40,580 It's eight blocks, two long ones and six short ones, 55 00:03:40,650 --> 00:03:42,740 so it took 14 minutes. 56 00:03:42,950 --> 00:03:45,350 I saw my mom on the floor. 57 00:03:45,620 --> 00:03:48,110 I tried to wake her up, but she was dead. 58 00:03:49,020 --> 00:03:51,180 Is that how you got blood on your hands? 59 00:03:51,260 --> 00:03:53,690 Yeah, because I tried to wake her up. 60 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:55,660 Why didn't you call the police? 61 00:03:55,730 --> 00:04:00,690 Because the police always suspect the person who's close to the body, 62 00:04:00,770 --> 00:04:02,500 or sometimes the boyfriend. 63 00:04:03,100 --> 00:04:06,400 Or sometimes the person who didn't call the police. 64 00:04:07,510 --> 00:04:08,870 I didn't see that one. 65 00:04:09,840 --> 00:04:13,440 He loves cop shows on TV. He wants to be a detective. 66 00:04:13,820 --> 00:04:17,340 If this wasn't what it is, 67 00:04:18,220 --> 00:04:20,150 coming here would be the greatest day of his life. 68 00:04:20,220 --> 00:04:21,850 Has he ever been violent 69 00:04:21,920 --> 00:04:23,480 towards anyone in the family? 70 00:04:23,560 --> 00:04:26,490 No. No. Never. He's a good kid. 71 00:04:27,300 --> 00:04:28,350 The thing is, Tim, 72 00:04:28,430 --> 00:04:31,090 we were wondering why you left school early. 73 00:04:31,600 --> 00:04:33,730 Other kids pick on me. 74 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:36,700 They move my things around, and I have to put them back. 75 00:04:36,770 --> 00:04:38,830 Or they take my things even. 76 00:04:39,110 --> 00:04:41,040 Is that why you were throwing pencils? 77 00:04:43,140 --> 00:04:45,010 We talked to your school, Tim. 78 00:04:45,080 --> 00:04:48,670 We know they sent you home because you were throwing pencils at other boys. 79 00:04:49,050 --> 00:04:50,540 Why were you doing that? 80 00:04:51,420 --> 00:04:52,680 Maybe when you got home, 81 00:04:52,750 --> 00:04:55,480 you told your mother what happened and she got mad. 82 00:04:55,560 --> 00:04:57,790 I didn't talk to her. She was dead. 83 00:04:58,060 --> 00:04:59,120 How did you get in the house? 84 00:04:59,190 --> 00:05:00,590 Do you have a key? 85 00:05:01,960 --> 00:05:06,130 My father gave me one because I was trustworthy. 86 00:05:06,530 --> 00:05:09,800 Look, Tim, this could've been an accident. 87 00:05:10,640 --> 00:05:12,610 Now, if something bad happened, 88 00:05:12,670 --> 00:05:14,540 this would be a good time to tell us. 89 00:05:14,610 --> 00:05:16,840 I don't have anything to tell you. 90 00:05:17,380 --> 00:05:19,740 You could tell us why you were mad at school. 91 00:05:25,090 --> 00:05:28,250 Okay. I did it. I killed her. 92 00:05:32,360 --> 00:05:34,590 No, he wouldn't... 93 00:05:36,060 --> 00:05:39,500 Okay, we just need you to tell us exactly what you did. 94 00:05:39,570 --> 00:05:42,090 I told my mom what happened and she got mad. 95 00:05:46,110 --> 00:05:51,370 Tim, why don't you want to tell us why you were throwing pencils? 96 00:05:53,980 --> 00:05:57,140 We're police detectives. We need your help. 97 00:05:58,490 --> 00:06:00,450 You do want to help us, don't you? 98 00:06:02,960 --> 00:06:04,080 Yes. 99 00:06:04,330 --> 00:06:06,730 Then answer my question. 100 00:06:09,930 --> 00:06:12,530 Yesterday, after second period, 101 00:06:12,600 --> 00:06:15,660 D.J. Asked if he could look at my fanny pack. 102 00:06:16,040 --> 00:06:18,560 It was a trick. He wouldn't give it back. 103 00:06:19,510 --> 00:06:21,170 Why didn't you want to tell us? 104 00:06:23,040 --> 00:06:25,600 My key was in the left compartment. 105 00:06:26,380 --> 00:06:29,110 Dad said I was trustworthy. But I wasn't. 106 00:06:29,180 --> 00:06:30,950 I let it get taken. 107 00:06:33,290 --> 00:06:34,350 D.J. Lovell? 108 00:06:34,420 --> 00:06:35,820 You know him? 109 00:06:35,960 --> 00:06:37,620 His parents are friends of ours. 110 00:06:38,560 --> 00:06:40,990 He's always been kind to Tim, to all our kids. 111 00:06:41,060 --> 00:06:42,390 So he's been in your house? 112 00:06:42,460 --> 00:06:43,520 Sure. 113 00:06:44,770 --> 00:06:48,030 I can't believe my friend's son would kill my wife. 114 00:06:48,240 --> 00:06:49,400 Sup. 115 00:06:49,970 --> 00:06:53,740 D.J. Lovell, he's got a record. Petty theft and assault. 116 00:06:59,780 --> 00:07:02,250 I didn't steal Tim Johnson's gay-ass fanny pack. 117 00:07:03,450 --> 00:07:05,420 So if we look around, we're not going to find it? 118 00:07:05,490 --> 00:07:07,420 Why do you care about a fanny pack? 119 00:07:07,490 --> 00:07:08,790 Joy was murdered. 120 00:07:08,860 --> 00:07:10,590 Tim Johnson had a key in there. 121 00:07:10,660 --> 00:07:13,650 Whoever killed Mrs. Johnson might have used a key to get in the house. 122 00:07:13,760 --> 00:07:14,920 You think... D. J... 123 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:17,460 I didn't even know there was a key in there. 124 00:07:18,630 --> 00:07:20,260 Yes, I took the fanny pack. 125 00:07:20,370 --> 00:07:22,340 But it was just a joke that got out of hand. 126 00:07:22,400 --> 00:07:23,500 Where is it? 127 00:07:23,570 --> 00:07:25,330 I threw the pack in the dumpster. 128 00:07:25,410 --> 00:07:27,500 Then you don't mind if we look around for it, 129 00:07:27,580 --> 00:07:31,100 or for the $8,000 that was taken from the Johnson home? 130 00:07:31,180 --> 00:07:33,110 Go ahead. Let them look. 131 00:07:33,180 --> 00:07:35,450 Wait. I was over there Tuesday. 132 00:07:36,180 --> 00:07:38,850 Joy got into a fight with someone on the phone. 133 00:07:38,990 --> 00:07:40,510 Who? I don't know. 134 00:07:41,460 --> 00:07:44,390 But when Joy hung up, she said the woman was a psycho. 135 00:07:45,360 --> 00:07:46,760 She seemed afraid. 136 00:07:48,330 --> 00:07:50,390 Nothing's there. No fanny pack, no cash. 137 00:07:50,470 --> 00:07:51,660 We're checking dumpsters. 138 00:07:51,730 --> 00:07:53,290 Well, he could have hidden it someplace else. 139 00:07:53,370 --> 00:07:54,770 The Johnson home phone records. 140 00:07:54,840 --> 00:07:56,430 There were three incoming calls 141 00:07:56,500 --> 00:07:59,030 around the time Mrs. Lovell was there on Tuesday. 142 00:07:59,110 --> 00:08:00,970 One from the younger kids' school, 143 00:08:01,040 --> 00:08:03,200 one from the Fraternal Order of Police, 144 00:08:03,280 --> 00:08:04,540 probably asking for money. 145 00:08:04,610 --> 00:08:06,640 Those people never take no for an answer. 146 00:08:06,710 --> 00:08:10,980 And the third from a Belinda Alvarez, Sunnyside, Queens. 147 00:08:11,350 --> 00:08:12,510 Alvarez. 148 00:08:12,590 --> 00:08:15,610 The woman seen leaving the Johnson home was Hispanic. 149 00:08:15,920 --> 00:08:18,190 Right. And bouncy. 150 00:08:23,870 --> 00:08:25,360 Belinda Alvarez? 151 00:08:25,430 --> 00:08:26,560 Yes. 152 00:08:27,070 --> 00:08:28,500 Do you know Joy Johnson? 153 00:08:28,740 --> 00:08:30,170 Oh, my God, yes. 154 00:08:30,240 --> 00:08:32,570 Poor woman, I can't believe it. 155 00:08:32,640 --> 00:08:34,070 Do you want to come in? 156 00:08:35,140 --> 00:08:36,200 Sure. 157 00:08:36,980 --> 00:08:38,240 You'll have to forgive the mess. 158 00:08:38,310 --> 00:08:39,640 It's been one of those days. 159 00:08:39,710 --> 00:08:42,270 They want to play with every toy for about one second, 160 00:08:42,350 --> 00:08:44,580 usually just to hit each other on the head. 161 00:08:44,650 --> 00:08:46,620 Good thing they got thick skulls, right? 162 00:08:46,690 --> 00:08:48,120 Is this a day care? 163 00:08:48,190 --> 00:08:51,350 I wish I could send them home at night. 164 00:08:51,430 --> 00:08:52,650 Nope, they're all mine. 165 00:08:52,730 --> 00:08:54,790 Three singles and a set of septuplets. 166 00:08:54,900 --> 00:08:56,260 I was hoping for octuplets, 167 00:08:56,330 --> 00:08:59,420 but God decided to bestow that blessing on Nadya Suleman. 168 00:09:00,370 --> 00:09:02,340 Mom, say hi to the police. 169 00:09:13,550 --> 00:09:14,540 Wow! 170 00:09:17,320 --> 00:09:20,220 Ten kids, just like the Johnsons. 171 00:09:20,320 --> 00:09:22,150 Only mine are biological, 172 00:09:22,560 --> 00:09:24,820 which is why I thought I should get the show. 173 00:09:24,890 --> 00:09:27,690 Plus I'm a single mother, so it's more dramatic. 174 00:09:27,830 --> 00:09:28,850 The show? 175 00:09:28,960 --> 00:09:31,590 A new reality show. Like Jon and Kate, you know, 176 00:09:31,770 --> 00:09:32,960 only less depressing. 177 00:09:33,030 --> 00:09:35,830 You and the Johnsons were involved in a reality show? 178 00:09:35,940 --> 00:09:37,230 One of us was going to be. 179 00:09:37,340 --> 00:09:39,030 And I needed it way more than they did. 180 00:09:39,110 --> 00:09:41,840 I'm by myself, barely surviving, on assistance. 181 00:09:41,910 --> 00:09:42,970 They're rich. 182 00:09:43,040 --> 00:09:45,380 So you called Mrs. Johnson the other day. 183 00:09:45,450 --> 00:09:46,940 Just to lay out the facts. 184 00:09:47,010 --> 00:09:50,380 I explained to her that I'm much younger and prettier than she was, 185 00:09:50,450 --> 00:09:54,220 and that my personality will come across on TV, don't you think? 186 00:09:55,460 --> 00:09:57,190 And you went to see her yesterday. 187 00:09:57,260 --> 00:09:58,820 Yes. I must have just missed the murderer. 188 00:09:58,890 --> 00:09:59,990 It's frightening. 189 00:10:00,060 --> 00:10:03,260 How did Mrs. Johnson react to your arguments, 190 00:10:03,330 --> 00:10:06,060 about you being younger and prettier and all? 191 00:10:06,670 --> 00:10:07,830 We didn't argue. 192 00:10:07,900 --> 00:10:10,060 We heard you argued on the phone. 193 00:10:10,370 --> 00:10:11,630 On the phone, yes. 194 00:10:11,710 --> 00:10:14,070 And I was ready to argue again when I went to see her. 195 00:10:14,140 --> 00:10:15,630 But she said they weren't going to do the show. 196 00:10:15,710 --> 00:10:17,870 As far as she was concerned, the show was mine. 197 00:10:18,110 --> 00:10:21,050 So you're saying when you left her, she was alive? 198 00:10:21,120 --> 00:10:23,350 Of course! And I was ecstatic. 199 00:10:23,420 --> 00:10:25,040 My own show! 200 00:10:27,360 --> 00:10:28,550 Hence the bouncy. 201 00:10:28,690 --> 00:10:31,490 I don't think anything that woman is involved with could be called reality. 202 00:10:31,560 --> 00:10:32,890 Septuplets? 203 00:10:33,360 --> 00:10:35,960 When this is all over, I say we find her fertility doctor 204 00:10:36,030 --> 00:10:38,020 and arrest him on general principles. 205 00:10:38,870 --> 00:10:40,890 Let's see if Johnson backs up her story. 206 00:10:41,670 --> 00:10:43,570 Hey, is Mr. Johnson around? 207 00:10:43,740 --> 00:10:44,800 Downstairs. 208 00:10:49,780 --> 00:10:51,510 Shh. If you're going down there, 209 00:10:51,580 --> 00:10:53,310 I'm going to need you to sign a release. 210 00:10:53,380 --> 00:10:54,370 What for? 211 00:10:54,450 --> 00:10:55,710 So that we can use your image on the air 212 00:10:55,780 --> 00:10:57,510 for merchandising, rebroadcast. 213 00:10:58,320 --> 00:10:59,580 We'll think about it. 214 00:11:00,390 --> 00:11:03,850 All right, let's see, does everybody have milk? 215 00:11:03,920 --> 00:11:05,650 I want Or-Juice! 216 00:11:05,830 --> 00:11:09,020 Or-Juice it is! Anybody else? 217 00:11:10,460 --> 00:11:11,690 Okay, I'll have to get more out of the fridge. 218 00:11:11,770 --> 00:11:15,600 Looks like Belinda Alvarez was lying about the Johnsons dropping out of the show. 219 00:11:16,640 --> 00:11:19,130 Or his wife wanted to drop out, but he didn't. 220 00:11:19,210 --> 00:11:23,170 The trick is, you've got to shake it up or it will just turn into one big orange. 221 00:11:23,240 --> 00:11:25,080 I've had that happen to me before. 222 00:11:29,780 --> 00:11:32,450 I love these kids, but they sure make a mess. 223 00:11:33,050 --> 00:11:35,580 My wife was so patient. 224 00:11:38,060 --> 00:11:40,720 Can we maybe talk to you without the cameras? 225 00:11:41,030 --> 00:11:43,090 I'm supposed to let them film everything. 226 00:11:43,330 --> 00:11:45,160 I signed a contract. 227 00:11:45,600 --> 00:11:47,460 So, no time off for mourning? 228 00:11:48,500 --> 00:11:52,340 Look, I know this seems odd, with Joy just dead, 229 00:11:52,410 --> 00:11:55,640 but without her I'm gonna have to stay home with the kids. 230 00:11:56,580 --> 00:11:59,380 And I don't have any way to pay for that without the show. 231 00:12:00,310 --> 00:12:02,370 Maybe we could talk to you out there. 232 00:12:02,780 --> 00:12:05,550 Um, yeah, sure, I guess. 233 00:12:14,860 --> 00:12:17,330 Okay. So, what's going on? 234 00:12:17,600 --> 00:12:20,660 We talked to a woman named Belinda Alvarez. Do you know her? 235 00:12:20,900 --> 00:12:23,030 She was a candidate for the reality show. 236 00:12:23,100 --> 00:12:24,830 The producer said she was kind of nuts. 237 00:12:24,910 --> 00:12:28,240 Turns out she was over here around the time your wife was killed. 238 00:12:30,410 --> 00:12:32,380 She killed Joy? 239 00:12:32,510 --> 00:12:34,040 She says she didn't. 240 00:12:34,380 --> 00:12:35,850 She says she didn't have a reason to 241 00:12:35,920 --> 00:12:39,180 because your wife told her that you weren't going to do the show. 242 00:12:39,320 --> 00:12:41,050 Joy wouldn't say that. 243 00:12:41,520 --> 00:12:43,150 Joy wanted this show. 244 00:12:44,130 --> 00:12:47,220 She wanted the world to see our beautiful children. 245 00:12:49,630 --> 00:12:52,030 When do I get to see my detectives on TV? 246 00:12:52,100 --> 00:12:54,090 Lupo didn't want to be on camera. 247 00:12:54,270 --> 00:12:55,860 I was having a bad beard day. 248 00:12:55,940 --> 00:12:57,530 I wasn't going to say anything. 249 00:12:58,770 --> 00:12:59,900 Paying bills, Loo? 250 00:12:59,970 --> 00:13:03,170 No, checking our insurance plan. The lifetime cap. 251 00:13:03,680 --> 00:13:04,800 Is it enough? 252 00:13:04,880 --> 00:13:07,310 Well, if I'm cured in the next three months, it's fine. 253 00:13:07,380 --> 00:13:11,040 Otherwise, I know where you can get a good deal on a used Toyota. 254 00:13:11,890 --> 00:13:14,120 All right, so someone's lying. 255 00:13:14,320 --> 00:13:16,620 Is it the husband or the Septomom? 256 00:13:16,720 --> 00:13:19,020 I'm liking the husband. His wife didn't want to do the show, 257 00:13:19,090 --> 00:13:20,390 he was trying to convince her. 258 00:13:20,460 --> 00:13:23,020 With a Special Athletics trophy? 259 00:13:23,260 --> 00:13:24,360 Mmm. I don't know. 260 00:13:24,430 --> 00:13:26,730 The Septomom's brought so many extra people into this world, 261 00:13:26,800 --> 00:13:28,960 she might feel entitled to take one out, 262 00:13:29,040 --> 00:13:31,870 especially one standing between her and her own TV show. 263 00:13:31,940 --> 00:13:33,340 Yeah, right, but it didn't work. 264 00:13:33,410 --> 00:13:35,170 I mean, Mr. Johnson got the show anyway. 265 00:13:35,240 --> 00:13:37,340 So she wasn't thinking like a television producer. 266 00:13:37,410 --> 00:13:40,510 She didn't see the appeal of the single dad angle. 267 00:13:40,610 --> 00:13:41,640 What's next? 268 00:13:41,720 --> 00:13:43,240 We're going to go see the actual producer. 269 00:13:43,320 --> 00:13:45,340 Ask him if Mrs. Johnson was in or out. 270 00:13:45,690 --> 00:13:46,810 All right. 271 00:13:50,720 --> 00:13:53,560 Having cameras follow you around 24/7, 272 00:13:53,630 --> 00:13:55,090 some people aren't comfortable. 273 00:13:55,230 --> 00:13:57,460 Yeah, how about Mrs. Johnson? How comfortable was she? 274 00:13:57,600 --> 00:13:59,500 She had questions, concerns. 275 00:13:59,600 --> 00:14:01,660 But Larry assured me she was totally on board. 276 00:14:02,040 --> 00:14:03,130 Larry did? 277 00:14:03,200 --> 00:14:04,600 I mostly dealt with him. 278 00:14:04,670 --> 00:14:06,470 After we picked his family for the show, 279 00:14:06,540 --> 00:14:08,440 I faxed the contracts to his office. 280 00:14:08,510 --> 00:14:10,740 The contract needed to be signed by both of them, right? 281 00:14:10,810 --> 00:14:11,970 Husband and wife? 282 00:14:12,310 --> 00:14:13,710 Originally, sure. 283 00:14:13,780 --> 00:14:16,340 But after she died, it only needed his. 284 00:14:16,480 --> 00:14:18,080 Did Mrs. Johnson ever sign it? 285 00:14:18,150 --> 00:14:19,680 No, just Larry. 286 00:14:19,750 --> 00:14:22,020 I didn't get it back until after she was killed. 287 00:14:22,090 --> 00:14:23,320 It kind of went down to the wire. 288 00:14:23,390 --> 00:14:25,120 So she was dragging her feet? 289 00:14:25,190 --> 00:14:26,280 Or he was. 290 00:14:26,360 --> 00:14:29,960 He wanted a higher cooperation fee, plus more of it upfront. 291 00:14:30,100 --> 00:14:31,530 He has 10 kids to take care of, 292 00:14:31,600 --> 00:14:32,960 plus he's a real estate developer. 293 00:14:33,030 --> 00:14:35,020 We all know how that's going nowadays. 294 00:14:36,240 --> 00:14:38,670 Things are slow. That's not exactly a secret. 295 00:14:38,740 --> 00:14:39,870 How slow? 296 00:14:39,940 --> 00:14:42,700 Well, there used to be people at some of those desks. 297 00:14:42,840 --> 00:14:43,830 You're still here. 298 00:14:43,910 --> 00:14:46,970 Visiting. I'm Mr. Johnson's accountant. 299 00:14:47,110 --> 00:14:48,740 And why are you... 300 00:14:49,920 --> 00:14:51,320 There was a rat. 301 00:14:51,820 --> 00:14:52,840 Where? 302 00:14:52,920 --> 00:14:55,010 Over there, and then it ran over there. 303 00:14:55,260 --> 00:14:56,850 Can you hand me that file? 304 00:14:58,430 --> 00:15:01,420 I've been here all week, going through Mr. Johnson's books. 305 00:15:01,500 --> 00:15:02,860 He's shutting down a couple of projects 306 00:15:02,930 --> 00:15:05,330 that looked great on paper, two years ago. 307 00:15:05,400 --> 00:15:07,300 Now, he's just trying to salvage some equity. 308 00:15:07,370 --> 00:15:08,630 You were here all week? 309 00:15:08,700 --> 00:15:10,730 Including the afternoon Mrs. Johnson was killed? 310 00:15:10,800 --> 00:15:11,790 Mmm-hmm. 311 00:15:11,870 --> 00:15:13,570 Was Mr. Johnson here all day? 312 00:15:13,640 --> 00:15:15,840 He said he had to be with his kids. 313 00:15:15,910 --> 00:15:18,000 He was gone when I got back from lunch. 314 00:15:18,910 --> 00:15:21,210 We were at your office this afternoon. 315 00:15:21,280 --> 00:15:23,010 We picked up this picture of you leaving the building 316 00:15:23,080 --> 00:15:24,310 the day your wife was murdered. 317 00:15:24,390 --> 00:15:27,840 12:15. You told us you left work at 3:00. 318 00:15:27,990 --> 00:15:30,920 Larry, are you coming? It's your turn. 319 00:15:31,690 --> 00:15:32,890 Just a minute. 320 00:15:35,630 --> 00:15:38,360 My sister flew in from Chicago to help out. 321 00:15:38,500 --> 00:15:39,830 We're playing Twister. 322 00:15:41,000 --> 00:15:42,700 Look, I can explain this. 323 00:15:43,370 --> 00:15:45,800 I should have just told you before. 324 00:15:47,170 --> 00:15:48,300 Not now. 325 00:15:55,280 --> 00:15:58,880 I lied to you about what I did that day. 326 00:15:59,450 --> 00:16:00,680 That's right. You came home, 327 00:16:00,750 --> 00:16:02,750 you tried to convince your wife to sign the contract. 328 00:16:02,820 --> 00:16:04,020 No. 329 00:16:05,430 --> 00:16:07,550 I went to see my girlfriend. 330 00:16:09,130 --> 00:16:10,430 What's her name? 331 00:16:14,230 --> 00:16:17,170 I started working for them three years ago. 332 00:16:17,270 --> 00:16:19,640 I baby-sit, sometimes I cook. 333 00:16:19,910 --> 00:16:22,030 I help Joy out if Larry has to work late. 334 00:16:22,110 --> 00:16:25,410 Except the times he's working late, when he's actually here. 335 00:16:26,410 --> 00:16:27,940 It just kind of happened. 336 00:16:28,850 --> 00:16:30,180 Joy went to bed early. 337 00:16:30,250 --> 00:16:33,380 It was raining, Larry offered to drive you home. 338 00:16:33,450 --> 00:16:35,390 His wife was too busy with the kids 339 00:16:35,460 --> 00:16:37,080 to pay much attention to him. 340 00:16:37,160 --> 00:16:39,130 Was he here on Thursday? 341 00:16:39,190 --> 00:16:42,390 He came over about 1:00. 342 00:16:42,460 --> 00:16:44,400 He left at 3:00 to get the kids. 343 00:16:44,570 --> 00:16:47,590 But his office is what, like, five minutes from here? 344 00:16:47,670 --> 00:16:48,690 I guess. 345 00:16:48,770 --> 00:16:51,760 Did he happen to mention if he stopped by home on the way over? 346 00:16:52,410 --> 00:16:55,600 No, he loved Joy. 347 00:16:56,340 --> 00:16:58,170 He did. He just... 348 00:16:59,280 --> 00:17:00,640 He loved me, too. 349 00:17:00,810 --> 00:17:02,910 Okay, so, Joy and you, 350 00:17:04,250 --> 00:17:05,950 two women, one man. 351 00:17:06,820 --> 00:17:11,450 As hard as it might be to understand, I loved Joy, too. 352 00:17:11,830 --> 00:17:14,620 And I would never take her away from those kids. 353 00:17:15,460 --> 00:17:17,520 The way that they felt about her. 354 00:17:17,800 --> 00:17:21,170 When Larry brought them home, 355 00:17:21,240 --> 00:17:24,000 they'd jump out of the car practically before he'd stopped 356 00:17:24,070 --> 00:17:25,400 and run in to see her. 357 00:17:27,740 --> 00:17:29,230 Is that a laundry hamper? 358 00:17:31,010 --> 00:17:32,070 Yeah. 359 00:17:33,350 --> 00:17:35,750 Man's shirt. Larry's? 360 00:17:36,050 --> 00:17:37,480 He keeps some stuff here. 361 00:17:37,550 --> 00:17:40,610 He always changed shirts after he visited me. 362 00:17:40,890 --> 00:17:42,010 His wife wouldn't notice 363 00:17:42,090 --> 00:17:44,920 if he left the house in one shirt and came back in another? 364 00:17:45,260 --> 00:17:46,780 He always wears blue. 365 00:17:48,900 --> 00:17:52,420 You left your office at 12:15, you got to your girlfriend's at 1:00. 366 00:17:52,900 --> 00:17:55,330 It's plenty of time to stop by home on the way. 367 00:17:55,400 --> 00:17:57,270 I stopped for a coffee. 368 00:17:57,340 --> 00:17:59,000 I had a lot to think about. 369 00:17:59,070 --> 00:18:00,630 The shirt you wore to your girlfriend's house 370 00:18:00,710 --> 00:18:02,700 had specks of your wife's blood on it. 371 00:18:03,340 --> 00:18:05,240 You get that from the coffee shop, too? 372 00:18:05,310 --> 00:18:07,580 No. I don't know how. 373 00:18:09,150 --> 00:18:10,310 Oh! 374 00:18:10,520 --> 00:18:13,780 My daughter, Olivia, has Fetal Alcohol Syndrome. 375 00:18:14,020 --> 00:18:16,580 She has trouble speaking and seeing. 376 00:18:16,660 --> 00:18:19,920 She gets easily frustrated, she has seizures. 377 00:18:20,360 --> 00:18:23,090 Thursday morning, she lashed out at breakfast 378 00:18:23,160 --> 00:18:25,320 and cut my wife with a grapefruit knife. 379 00:18:26,600 --> 00:18:28,570 I must have gotten blood on my shirt. 380 00:18:29,500 --> 00:18:32,270 This guy has answers for everything. 381 00:18:32,440 --> 00:18:33,530 What do we have on him? 382 00:18:33,610 --> 00:18:36,010 Well, he cheats on his wife with the babysitter, 383 00:18:36,080 --> 00:18:38,040 and then signs up to be a TV star 384 00:18:38,110 --> 00:18:40,600 the day after the wife is bludgeoned to death. 385 00:18:40,680 --> 00:18:42,410 Okay, I'd convict him, 386 00:18:42,480 --> 00:18:44,580 but what evidence do we have that he's the killer? 387 00:18:44,650 --> 00:18:46,180 The blood on the shirt. 388 00:18:46,250 --> 00:18:49,590 Which he just explained with a heart-rending story about his daughter. 389 00:18:49,790 --> 00:18:51,260 He lied about his alibi. 390 00:18:51,330 --> 00:18:52,760 He still doesn't have one. 391 00:18:52,830 --> 00:18:54,560 He needed the money he'd get for going on the show, 392 00:18:54,630 --> 00:18:55,820 but his wife wouldn't sign on. 393 00:18:56,100 --> 00:18:58,890 Yeah, but that's according to the Septomom? 394 00:18:58,970 --> 00:19:00,760 I mean, not the world's greatest witness. 395 00:19:00,830 --> 00:19:02,430 You guys have anything else? 396 00:19:03,040 --> 00:19:04,330 What about this? 397 00:19:04,400 --> 00:19:07,200 His babysitter-mistress told us the kids always run in the house 398 00:19:07,270 --> 00:19:08,430 the second they get home. 399 00:19:08,510 --> 00:19:12,000 The day of the murder, Larry made them wait while he went in first. 400 00:19:12,080 --> 00:19:14,410 What if he held them back because he knew his wife was dead 401 00:19:14,480 --> 00:19:16,350 and he didn't want them to see it? 402 00:19:16,680 --> 00:19:19,310 That would be the nicest thing I've heard about this guy yet. 403 00:19:19,390 --> 00:19:21,080 Enough to arrest him for murder? 404 00:19:21,460 --> 00:19:23,120 If you can confirm it, yeah. 405 00:19:23,190 --> 00:19:24,890 The kids are at home with the sister right now. 406 00:19:24,960 --> 00:19:28,550 Well, take a ride and I'll keep Mr. Johnson company for a while. 407 00:19:29,000 --> 00:19:30,660 Are you sure this is okay? 408 00:19:30,730 --> 00:19:32,600 My brother will be home any minute. 409 00:19:32,670 --> 00:19:35,030 We're trying to solve their mother's murder. 410 00:19:35,100 --> 00:19:36,190 Anything they know. 411 00:19:36,270 --> 00:19:38,430 When your dad takes you home from school, 412 00:19:38,570 --> 00:19:40,770 what usually happens when you get to the house? 413 00:19:40,840 --> 00:19:43,040 My dad is going to bring us pizza. 414 00:19:44,750 --> 00:19:45,940 Okay. 415 00:19:46,210 --> 00:19:47,370 Uh... 416 00:19:47,950 --> 00:19:49,010 How about you? 417 00:19:49,080 --> 00:19:51,020 Do you know what happens usually when you get to the house? 418 00:19:51,080 --> 00:19:53,680 Darnell helps Amy with her seatbelt. 419 00:19:53,750 --> 00:19:58,820 Then Freddy opens the door and Amy gets out, then lifts Jane out. 420 00:19:58,890 --> 00:20:02,560 And they all go inside the house and hug Mom, 421 00:20:02,630 --> 00:20:06,730 except Angie, who always waits for Dad. 422 00:20:07,230 --> 00:20:10,640 So your dad comes in the house after you guys? 423 00:20:11,410 --> 00:20:12,600 I don't know. 424 00:20:12,670 --> 00:20:14,540 Yes, you do, squirt. You just said. 425 00:20:14,610 --> 00:20:16,580 Hey, hey, Tim, maybe you should... 426 00:20:18,710 --> 00:20:20,700 Maybe you should help us out here. 427 00:20:22,220 --> 00:20:23,510 Help you detectives? 428 00:20:23,580 --> 00:20:25,310 That's right. Do you think you can? 429 00:20:25,390 --> 00:20:26,580 Sure! 430 00:20:29,960 --> 00:20:33,790 Squirt, you said Darnell helps Amy with her seatbelt. 431 00:20:33,860 --> 00:20:38,060 Then Freddy opens the door and Amy gets out and lifts Jane out. 432 00:20:38,130 --> 00:20:40,530 And you all run inside the house and hug Mom, 433 00:20:40,600 --> 00:20:43,090 except Angie, who always waits for Dad, right? 434 00:20:44,300 --> 00:20:48,040 Okay, so on the day that your mother got hurt, what happened? 435 00:20:48,580 --> 00:20:49,600 I don't know. 436 00:20:49,680 --> 00:20:51,270 You do, squirt. You're smart. 437 00:20:51,550 --> 00:20:52,840 I am smart. 438 00:20:52,910 --> 00:20:54,570 So tell the two detectives. 439 00:20:56,680 --> 00:21:01,710 Darnell started to unbuckle Amy and Dad said, "Stop." 440 00:21:02,190 --> 00:21:05,390 So, what you usually do, your Dad said don't do it? 441 00:21:05,630 --> 00:21:07,790 Yes. He said, "Stop." 442 00:21:07,860 --> 00:21:10,630 He made us wait. He went in first. 443 00:21:13,800 --> 00:21:14,960 That's confirmation. 444 00:21:15,040 --> 00:21:16,160 Yeah, what the lady asked for. 445 00:21:16,240 --> 00:21:19,360 Anybody home? Hey, the pizza man is here! 446 00:21:19,640 --> 00:21:21,730 I got a pizza for everyone! 447 00:21:22,880 --> 00:21:24,470 Now who wants a pizza? 448 00:21:24,540 --> 00:21:27,100 Amy, remember, no pepperoni for you. 449 00:21:29,350 --> 00:21:31,280 Hey, what are you guys doing here? 450 00:21:34,020 --> 00:21:35,490 I got some pizzas. 451 00:21:35,620 --> 00:21:38,020 Larry Johnson, you're under arrest for murder. 452 00:21:38,390 --> 00:21:39,690 That's a wrap. 453 00:21:47,270 --> 00:21:50,200 "Case number 1-6-7-2-4-9. People v. Larry Johnson. 454 00:21:50,270 --> 00:21:51,460 "Murder in the Second Degree." 455 00:21:51,540 --> 00:21:53,700 The plea is Not Guilty, Your Honor. 456 00:21:53,770 --> 00:21:56,500 And we're requesting ROR for humanitarian reasons. 457 00:21:56,580 --> 00:21:57,800 Humanitarian? 458 00:21:57,880 --> 00:22:00,640 Your client's charged with murder, not healing lepers. 459 00:22:00,710 --> 00:22:02,770 He has 10 special needs children at home 460 00:22:02,850 --> 00:22:05,440 who need his care since his wife is deceased. 461 00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:08,490 Since he smashed in her head with a Special Athletics trophy. 462 00:22:08,560 --> 00:22:09,820 The People request remand. 463 00:22:09,890 --> 00:22:11,150 He has ties to the community, 464 00:22:11,220 --> 00:22:13,160 both personal and professional, 465 00:22:13,230 --> 00:22:14,850 and he cannot afford high bail. 466 00:22:14,930 --> 00:22:18,420 If he's jailed pending trial, then he's not the one who'll suffer, 467 00:22:18,500 --> 00:22:19,660 it's his children. 468 00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:23,270 All right, we'll hold him for now on $500,000, 469 00:22:23,340 --> 00:22:26,030 but I'll review pending a report from Children's Services. 470 00:22:26,210 --> 00:22:27,330 Thank you. 471 00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:30,370 Hey, the pizza man is here! 472 00:22:30,440 --> 00:22:32,310 I got a pizza for everyone. 473 00:22:32,380 --> 00:22:34,440 We were just trying to have fun. 474 00:22:34,550 --> 00:22:37,570 Just trying to survive after my wife's tragic death. 475 00:22:38,150 --> 00:22:40,680 I had no idea what was about to happen. 476 00:22:40,950 --> 00:22:42,750 Hey, what are you guys doing here? 477 00:22:45,860 --> 00:22:46,990 I got some pizzas. 478 00:22:47,060 --> 00:22:49,320 Larry Johnson, you're under arrest for murder. 479 00:22:49,460 --> 00:22:50,620 That's a wrap. 480 00:22:51,500 --> 00:22:53,970 I don't know what's going to happen now. 481 00:22:54,030 --> 00:22:56,300 The kids cry all the time. 482 00:22:56,670 --> 00:22:58,000 They're acting out. 483 00:22:59,070 --> 00:23:00,600 They need their father back. 484 00:23:01,510 --> 00:23:03,570 We miss you, Daddy. 485 00:23:05,710 --> 00:23:07,080 Very entertaining. 486 00:23:07,250 --> 00:23:08,710 Whatever happened to the Cosbys? 487 00:23:08,780 --> 00:23:10,370 They didn't have enough kids. 488 00:23:10,450 --> 00:23:12,510 Children's Services just weighed in. 489 00:23:12,890 --> 00:23:16,580 If Mr. Johnson makes bail, the family stays together pending a verdict. 490 00:23:16,660 --> 00:23:20,150 And if he doesn't, the kids get split up and sent to foster homes. 491 00:23:20,290 --> 00:23:21,420 It'll be ugly. 492 00:23:21,500 --> 00:23:25,090 And our fault. "Heartless Prosecutors Break Up Happy Family." 493 00:23:25,230 --> 00:23:26,790 It'll poison the jury pool. 494 00:23:27,530 --> 00:23:29,260 Lower the bail to $100,000. 495 00:23:29,340 --> 00:23:32,600 But make one condition that he stop appearing on that damn show. 496 00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:37,030 Ms. Rubirosa? 497 00:23:37,540 --> 00:23:38,940 Connie, right? 498 00:23:39,350 --> 00:23:40,680 Swarthmore. 499 00:23:40,750 --> 00:23:43,050 You lived with Susie Nevins, senior year. 500 00:23:43,350 --> 00:23:47,050 I dated Karen Lazar, drove a yellow Geo Metro. 501 00:23:47,120 --> 00:23:50,250 And sold rides to New York. Artie... 502 00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:51,450 Kramer. 503 00:23:52,190 --> 00:23:54,460 The reality show producer. 504 00:23:54,860 --> 00:23:55,990 Guilty. 505 00:23:57,430 --> 00:24:01,090 Hey, I can guess what you probably think about a show like Larry Plus Ten, 506 00:24:01,170 --> 00:24:03,900 but do you know how many special needs children all around the country 507 00:24:03,970 --> 00:24:05,700 are being adopted after one episode? 508 00:24:05,770 --> 00:24:08,570 Well, hopefully by better parents than Mr. Johnson. 509 00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:11,170 The show's dead, Connie, because of your bail condition. 510 00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:12,580 We need Larry on camera. 511 00:24:12,650 --> 00:24:13,740 It's not going to happen. 512 00:24:13,810 --> 00:24:14,910 Okay. 513 00:24:15,020 --> 00:24:16,280 Well, what about you? 514 00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:17,950 What about me? 515 00:24:18,290 --> 00:24:21,050 Well, the sister's a stiff, but we've still got the kids. 516 00:24:21,150 --> 00:24:23,490 We can keep it alive by focusing on the trial 517 00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:25,860 and contrasting that with her struggles inside the house. 518 00:24:25,930 --> 00:24:28,120 Cameras aren't allowed in the courtroom. 519 00:24:29,060 --> 00:24:30,620 So outside the court. 520 00:24:30,700 --> 00:24:33,560 D.A. Doing prep, D.A. Briefing us on developments. 521 00:24:33,630 --> 00:24:35,190 The D.A. Telling you you're out of your mind. 522 00:24:35,270 --> 00:24:37,600 It's an opportunity to take your case to the public. 523 00:24:37,670 --> 00:24:40,110 Plus, I have tapes of Larry Johnson and his wife 524 00:24:40,170 --> 00:24:41,770 when they were being considered for the show, 525 00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:45,300 talking about whether or not to do it and not always agreeing. 526 00:24:45,380 --> 00:24:46,810 I can subpoena those tapes. 527 00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:48,680 We'll fight it. First Amendment. 528 00:24:48,850 --> 00:24:50,710 Or, you could get them hand-delivered. 529 00:24:54,890 --> 00:24:56,010 The tapes could help. 530 00:24:56,090 --> 00:24:58,110 So we'll fight in court to get them. 531 00:24:58,360 --> 00:25:00,290 But how do we make a showing they're relevant 532 00:25:00,360 --> 00:25:01,660 if we haven't seen them? 533 00:25:01,730 --> 00:25:03,250 Without our point of view on the show, 534 00:25:03,330 --> 00:25:04,990 it's all propaganda for acquittal. 535 00:25:05,070 --> 00:25:06,430 We'll pick jurors who haven't seen it. 536 00:25:06,500 --> 00:25:10,160 Or we can embrace it. Argue our case and get the tapes. 537 00:25:10,270 --> 00:25:11,360 What's the downside? 538 00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:13,630 Fine. Why don't you be on the show? 539 00:25:14,570 --> 00:25:15,670 He didn't ask me. 540 00:25:25,450 --> 00:25:27,850 Hold it. Sorry. I've got a white balance glitch. 541 00:25:28,220 --> 00:25:30,490 Listen, can you arrive again? 542 00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:32,480 Arrive again? 543 00:25:32,860 --> 00:25:34,350 Just drive around the block. 544 00:25:34,460 --> 00:25:37,590 Look, I'm a little late. Why don't I just get in and get out again? 545 00:25:37,700 --> 00:25:39,060 Okay. We can cheat it. 546 00:25:49,940 --> 00:25:51,070 Thank you. 547 00:25:51,140 --> 00:25:52,440 Okay, stop there. 548 00:25:53,050 --> 00:25:55,740 Now, can you tell what you're going to be doing in there today? 549 00:25:56,880 --> 00:25:58,010 Tell who? 550 00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:01,620 The camera, like it's as if you're talking to a friend. 551 00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:05,680 What? 552 00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:07,090 You having fun? 553 00:26:07,260 --> 00:26:09,750 I am going to kill you and then I'm going to kill McCoy. 554 00:26:09,830 --> 00:26:10,890 On camera? 555 00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:13,090 I don't care. I'd be better off in prison. 556 00:26:13,170 --> 00:26:14,260 Where are you? 557 00:26:14,370 --> 00:26:15,860 I'm in the courthouse. 558 00:26:15,970 --> 00:26:17,100 Are you almost here? 559 00:26:17,170 --> 00:26:19,540 Yes. Uh-huh, except, first, I have to tell my friend, the camera, 560 00:26:19,610 --> 00:26:20,730 what's going on. 561 00:26:20,810 --> 00:26:22,040 What are you going to say? 562 00:26:22,180 --> 00:26:24,410 Don't worry, just the party line. 563 00:26:33,890 --> 00:26:36,220 Today we're going to begin to prove our case. 564 00:26:36,290 --> 00:26:38,350 Larry Johnson may look admirable 565 00:26:38,430 --> 00:26:40,790 because he's surrounded himself with needy children. 566 00:26:41,030 --> 00:26:42,590 But the evidence will show... 567 00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:45,700 ...that Larry Johnson, his business failing, 568 00:26:45,770 --> 00:26:48,930 desperately wanted to appear on a reality show. 569 00:26:49,140 --> 00:26:50,730 He needed the money, 570 00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:53,170 and cared nothing about exposing his children 571 00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:56,230 to public scrutiny and humiliation. 572 00:26:57,640 --> 00:27:00,270 When his wife refused to go along, 573 00:27:00,350 --> 00:27:04,080 he argued with her and then he killed her. 574 00:27:04,820 --> 00:27:06,410 The only person in that family 575 00:27:06,490 --> 00:27:08,920 that Larry Johnson really cared about 576 00:27:10,490 --> 00:27:11,920 was Larry Johnson. 577 00:27:20,270 --> 00:27:22,930 No one saw Mr. Johnson kill his wife. 578 00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:24,800 No one even saw them argue. 579 00:27:26,010 --> 00:27:28,370 What people did see, as the evidence will show, 580 00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:31,770 was another woman who desperately wanted to be on that show, 581 00:27:31,850 --> 00:27:34,810 leaving the Johnson house at the time of the murder. 582 00:27:35,420 --> 00:27:38,040 And that a young man with a criminal record 583 00:27:38,120 --> 00:27:40,550 stole a key to the Johnson house. 584 00:27:41,220 --> 00:27:43,780 And that one of the Johnson's adopted children, 585 00:27:43,860 --> 00:27:45,760 a troubled young man of 16, 586 00:27:45,830 --> 00:27:48,730 actually confessed to killing his mother. 587 00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:51,730 Who killed Joy Johnson? 588 00:27:54,630 --> 00:27:55,760 I don't know. 589 00:27:56,300 --> 00:27:57,560 And you know what? 590 00:27:58,470 --> 00:28:00,170 Neither do the authorities. 591 00:28:05,550 --> 00:28:07,570 There's no real evidence against those others. 592 00:28:07,650 --> 00:28:10,240 The Defense is just throwing spaghetti against the ceiling, 593 00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:12,050 hoping something sticks. 594 00:28:12,190 --> 00:28:13,650 Exactly what I would be doing. 595 00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:15,450 And some of it sounds pretty sticky. 596 00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:16,920 The jury's not going to like Johnson. 597 00:28:16,990 --> 00:28:19,460 Less than a day after his wife is murdered, 598 00:28:19,530 --> 00:28:23,860 he goes on a reality show to exploit his disabled children. 599 00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:27,730 This is the video we got in exchange for peddling my ass on TV. 600 00:28:33,810 --> 00:28:35,800 We're very excited about this. 601 00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:37,240 We can't wait to share our family 602 00:28:37,310 --> 00:28:38,870 with as many people as we can. 603 00:28:38,950 --> 00:28:42,880 We still just need to discuss it a little more among ourselves. 604 00:28:43,150 --> 00:28:46,080 Do you have any questions I can answer for you? 605 00:28:46,150 --> 00:28:48,620 My husband and I should probably talk privately. 606 00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:50,450 Honey, you may as well get used to it. 607 00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:52,180 The camera's going to be on all the time. 608 00:28:52,260 --> 00:28:54,990 That's what I want to talk about, Larry. 609 00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:58,760 You know the kids get teased enough already. 610 00:28:58,830 --> 00:29:03,030 Some of them don't have the judgment to control what they say. 611 00:29:03,100 --> 00:29:05,540 We really need to talk about this. 612 00:29:07,370 --> 00:29:09,640 Does that have to be on? 613 00:29:10,540 --> 00:29:13,240 The seed of the argument that led to the murder. 614 00:29:13,350 --> 00:29:15,580 I don't hear her saying she won't do the show. 615 00:29:15,650 --> 00:29:17,580 We have a witness who she said it to. 616 00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:24,120 Mrs. Johnson was very gracious. 617 00:29:24,190 --> 00:29:26,560 She offered to make me tea, but I couldn't stay. 618 00:29:26,630 --> 00:29:29,460 I had 10 kids waiting with my mom at a McDonald's. 619 00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:32,960 Before she offered to make you tea, 620 00:29:33,030 --> 00:29:35,260 what did she say about the reality show? 621 00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:36,660 That I could have it. 622 00:29:36,740 --> 00:29:38,170 She thought it was deleterious. 623 00:29:39,410 --> 00:29:40,570 Deleterious? 624 00:29:40,740 --> 00:29:42,330 I had to look it up, too. 625 00:29:42,410 --> 00:29:43,810 Like it would damage the kids. 626 00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:46,070 She didn't like it. They weren't going to do it. 627 00:29:46,150 --> 00:29:47,240 Thank you. 628 00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:53,410 Isn't it possible that Mrs. Johnson told you that 629 00:29:53,490 --> 00:29:54,850 just to get you out of her house? 630 00:29:55,620 --> 00:29:56,750 Why would she do that? 631 00:29:56,820 --> 00:29:59,620 Because you'd argued with her on the phone, made threats. 632 00:29:59,830 --> 00:30:01,290 I never made threats. 633 00:30:01,630 --> 00:30:04,260 You thought you deserved to be on that show, didn't you? 634 00:30:04,330 --> 00:30:06,990 I did. The Johnsons didn't even have those kids themselves. 635 00:30:07,070 --> 00:30:08,560 I had mine the old-fashioned way. 636 00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:11,200 With fertility drugs and a stranger's sperm. 637 00:30:11,870 --> 00:30:14,000 How badly did you want to be on that show? 638 00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:16,230 A lot. But I'm not a violent person. 639 00:30:16,580 --> 00:30:19,570 Didn't you tell the show's producer that you would kill someone 640 00:30:19,650 --> 00:30:20,940 to be on that show? 641 00:30:21,010 --> 00:30:22,980 No. Me? Never. 642 00:30:23,150 --> 00:30:25,710 Your Honor, I'd like to play an audition tape Ms. Alvarez made 643 00:30:25,790 --> 00:30:26,840 when she applied for the show. 644 00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:30,250 Objection. We have no idea what that DVD is, 645 00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:31,980 or who made it, or where it came from. 646 00:30:32,060 --> 00:30:33,550 Ms. Alvarez can authenticate it for us. 647 00:30:33,630 --> 00:30:34,680 She was there. 648 00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:36,890 Very well, subject to authentication. 649 00:30:43,870 --> 00:30:46,170 I know, maybe you're thinking about other people, 650 00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:47,900 but there's nobody as good as me for this. 651 00:30:47,970 --> 00:30:49,840 My septuplets are very hilarious, 652 00:30:49,910 --> 00:30:52,500 and I'm already getting them used to being on camera. 653 00:30:52,980 --> 00:30:54,570 Is that you, Ms. Alvarez? 654 00:30:55,150 --> 00:30:56,340 Yes. It's me. 655 00:30:56,680 --> 00:30:57,780 Mmm. 656 00:30:58,320 --> 00:30:59,840 It's really about the parent, Belinda. 657 00:30:59,920 --> 00:31:01,780 We need someone who's passionate. 658 00:31:02,020 --> 00:31:05,010 Passionate? You think I'm maybe one of those wise Latina women? 659 00:31:05,090 --> 00:31:06,080 Not me. 660 00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:07,420 You're not wise? 661 00:31:07,490 --> 00:31:09,290 Not boring. I've got the fire. 662 00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:13,160 You have no idea. I swear, to get on this show I would kill. 663 00:31:20,170 --> 00:31:22,110 Thank you, Ms. Alvarez, you may step down. 664 00:31:22,180 --> 00:31:24,940 I guess your friend Kramer made a deal with them, too. 665 00:31:25,010 --> 00:31:26,770 We'll take a 15 minute recess. 666 00:31:32,220 --> 00:31:37,680 When Ms. Alvarez told you that she would kill to be on your show, 667 00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:39,280 did you take her literally? 668 00:31:39,630 --> 00:31:42,420 Of course not. No, I think she was just trying to impress me. 669 00:31:42,660 --> 00:31:44,930 Because that's the kind of thing you look for, isn't it? 670 00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:47,160 Exaggerated fake emotions? 671 00:31:47,530 --> 00:31:49,130 Well, they're called reality shows. 672 00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:52,170 That's what they're called. But they're scripted, aren't they? 673 00:31:52,470 --> 00:31:56,570 Based around manufactured emotional situations? 674 00:31:56,710 --> 00:31:59,270 We take what's there and we amplify it. 675 00:31:59,450 --> 00:32:00,740 Amplify. 676 00:32:00,910 --> 00:32:04,480 For example, a simple desire to be on the show 677 00:32:04,550 --> 00:32:06,580 into a bogus willingness to kill? 678 00:32:06,650 --> 00:32:07,980 That's the kind of thing you want. 679 00:32:08,050 --> 00:32:11,680 Ms. Alvarez was showing you that she knew how to play the game. 680 00:32:12,790 --> 00:32:14,090 Something like that. 681 00:32:14,190 --> 00:32:16,290 Now, did Mrs. Johnson ever express 682 00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:18,460 that kind of eagerness to be on the show? 683 00:32:18,530 --> 00:32:19,560 No. 684 00:32:19,630 --> 00:32:23,230 Did she ever even tell you she wanted to be on the show? 685 00:32:23,900 --> 00:32:25,060 Not directly. 686 00:32:25,340 --> 00:32:27,200 I only heard through her husband. 687 00:32:27,470 --> 00:32:28,740 Her husband. 688 00:32:28,980 --> 00:32:31,030 How long before her death 689 00:32:31,110 --> 00:32:33,770 did you send him the contract that needed to be signed? 690 00:32:34,380 --> 00:32:35,570 About a month. 691 00:32:35,750 --> 00:32:37,940 And when did you tell him you needed it back? 692 00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:40,520 Right away. He kept saying, "No problem." 693 00:32:40,590 --> 00:32:41,850 It kept not coming. 694 00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:44,190 And what did you tell him 695 00:32:44,260 --> 00:32:47,560 the last time you spoke to him before Mrs. Johnson was murdered? 696 00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:51,860 I said I need it back, signed, in 24 hours, 697 00:32:51,930 --> 00:32:54,560 or I'm going to have to do the show with somebody else. 698 00:32:55,100 --> 00:32:56,830 Thank you, Mr. Kramer. 699 00:32:59,770 --> 00:33:04,770 So, no one ever got killed over a reality show? 700 00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:06,710 I don't know about ever. 701 00:33:06,780 --> 00:33:08,210 Would you be surprised to hear that 702 00:33:08,310 --> 00:33:10,650 there have been reports of a dozen suicides, 703 00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:14,590 or suicide attempts made by reality show contestants? 704 00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:17,020 Well, people can get highly wrought, 705 00:33:17,090 --> 00:33:20,150 and so we try to weed out the ones that we think are unstable. 706 00:33:20,230 --> 00:33:22,630 Is that why you didn't go with Belinda Alvarez? 707 00:33:22,730 --> 00:33:23,720 In part. 708 00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:25,820 Because she's a high-strung erratic woman, 709 00:33:25,900 --> 00:33:27,370 who, as far as you know, got herself pregnant 710 00:33:27,430 --> 00:33:28,960 with septuplets she couldn't support 711 00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:30,500 just to get herself on a show like yours? 712 00:33:30,570 --> 00:33:32,900 Objection. There's no basis for any of that. 713 00:33:32,970 --> 00:33:34,200 We've seen the woman. 714 00:33:34,270 --> 00:33:36,500 Sustained. Move on, Ms. Nuvell. 715 00:33:39,350 --> 00:33:43,180 As for the delay in getting the contract back, 716 00:33:43,250 --> 00:33:46,550 did you know it was because Mrs. Johnson was reluctant to sign it? 717 00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:47,710 No. 718 00:33:47,790 --> 00:33:49,150 Isn't it just as likely it was because 719 00:33:49,220 --> 00:33:51,590 Mr. Johnson was negotiating for a higher payment? 720 00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:54,390 I don't know. I told him I couldn't go any higher. 721 00:33:54,460 --> 00:33:56,160 But he was trying, wasn't he? 722 00:33:56,230 --> 00:33:57,460 He asked. 723 00:33:57,530 --> 00:33:59,360 He even had his accountant call me. 724 00:33:59,430 --> 00:34:00,870 He said he was doing some tax planning 725 00:34:00,930 --> 00:34:01,990 and wanted to know 726 00:34:02,070 --> 00:34:04,260 how much money Mr. Johnson could expect to earn from the show. 727 00:34:04,970 --> 00:34:06,000 Thank you. 728 00:34:07,310 --> 00:34:08,400 Hey. 729 00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:12,210 The police talked to Johnson's accountant. She's a woman. 730 00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:15,750 Then who called Kramer? 731 00:34:17,180 --> 00:34:21,090 I never expected it, but I've been drawn into this bizarre murder trial 732 00:34:21,150 --> 00:34:23,920 involving two of our very special families. 733 00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:27,080 Ms. Rubirosa, how did I do? 734 00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:29,590 You were fantastic. 735 00:34:29,660 --> 00:34:31,890 Can I have a word with the cameras off? 736 00:34:32,630 --> 00:34:35,260 Only if you promise to give us your full impressions afterwards. 737 00:34:35,330 --> 00:34:37,360 We're airing a very special edition Sunday night. 738 00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:40,800 Artie, I think the lines are getting a little bit blurred here. 739 00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:43,610 Can I talk to you, please? 740 00:34:46,750 --> 00:34:49,940 Kramer had a callback number for Johnson's so-called accountant. 741 00:34:50,180 --> 00:34:53,020 It's a finance company that's a front for Sammy Shiner. 742 00:34:53,450 --> 00:34:54,510 The loan shark? 743 00:34:55,350 --> 00:34:58,620 If Sammy Shiner wanted to know how much money Johnson had coming, 744 00:34:58,690 --> 00:35:00,390 it was because Johnson owed him. 745 00:35:00,830 --> 00:35:03,060 And Shiner is not someone you want to keep waiting. 746 00:35:03,130 --> 00:35:06,160 OCID has him listed as a suspect in at least four murders. 747 00:35:06,230 --> 00:35:07,720 Johnson's business is failing. 748 00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:10,270 He borrows from Shiner. He can't pay it back. 749 00:35:10,340 --> 00:35:13,330 He really, really needs that reality show gig. 750 00:35:13,940 --> 00:35:15,530 That amps his motive 20 fold, 751 00:35:15,610 --> 00:35:17,240 if we can get Shiner to testify. 752 00:35:17,310 --> 00:35:19,040 We get a material witness warrant, 753 00:35:19,110 --> 00:35:20,910 give him transactional immunity. 754 00:35:20,980 --> 00:35:21,970 It's doable. 755 00:35:22,050 --> 00:35:23,110 I'll start the application. 756 00:35:23,180 --> 00:35:25,240 No, no. Not yet. It'll tip them off. 757 00:35:26,190 --> 00:35:28,280 Johnson's taking the stand on Monday, right? 758 00:35:28,350 --> 00:35:30,220 He's going to have the jury in tears. 759 00:35:30,290 --> 00:35:32,420 His grief for his wife, his beautiful children... 760 00:35:32,490 --> 00:35:35,890 Let him. All I have to do is get him to say something, anything, 761 00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:37,620 about not needing money. 762 00:35:37,700 --> 00:35:39,670 Then we bring Shiner in for rebuttal, 763 00:35:39,730 --> 00:35:43,460 the jury will see Johnson's a liar who's played them for fools. 764 00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:51,670 My wife was concerned about our children's well-being, of course. 765 00:35:51,740 --> 00:35:53,010 We both were. 766 00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:55,170 So we got assurances from the producers 767 00:35:55,250 --> 00:35:57,010 that we could review the tapes, 768 00:35:57,480 --> 00:35:58,950 that we could protect them. 769 00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:02,220 I was satisfied and so was she. 770 00:36:02,660 --> 00:36:04,920 Then why did she tell Ms. Alvarez otherwise? 771 00:36:06,730 --> 00:36:08,280 I don't believe she did. 772 00:36:08,730 --> 00:36:10,790 We've heard testimony that on the day of the murder, 773 00:36:10,860 --> 00:36:12,390 when you returned home with your children, 774 00:36:12,470 --> 00:36:14,300 you altered your usual routine. 775 00:36:15,270 --> 00:36:17,530 My wife had been tired that morning. 776 00:36:18,240 --> 00:36:21,330 I thought she might be napping, so I held the kids back. 777 00:36:22,210 --> 00:36:24,200 It wasn't that unusual. 778 00:36:24,980 --> 00:36:27,380 So you didn't kill your wife, Mr. Johnson? 779 00:36:27,750 --> 00:36:29,010 Of course not! 780 00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:32,610 I thanked God every day that he had brought her into my life, 781 00:36:32,720 --> 00:36:34,280 and into our children's. 782 00:36:34,420 --> 00:36:36,410 She literally saved their lives. 783 00:36:37,020 --> 00:36:38,650 They loved her for that. 784 00:36:40,730 --> 00:36:41,950 So did I. 785 00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:43,920 Thank you. 786 00:36:47,730 --> 00:36:50,400 If you loved your wife, what emotion exactly 787 00:36:50,470 --> 00:36:52,530 did you feel for your babysitter? 788 00:36:53,910 --> 00:36:55,640 I'm not perfect. 789 00:36:56,940 --> 00:36:58,270 I never said I was. 790 00:36:59,950 --> 00:37:01,380 I may have strayed, 791 00:37:02,720 --> 00:37:04,680 but that doesn't make me a murderer. 792 00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:07,180 On the day your wife was killed, 793 00:37:07,250 --> 00:37:09,350 you left your office at 12:15, 794 00:37:09,420 --> 00:37:13,120 but you didn't arrive at your girlfriend's apartment until 1:00. 795 00:37:13,330 --> 00:37:14,790 I stopped for coffee. 796 00:37:16,230 --> 00:37:18,290 I was thinking about what I was doing. 797 00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:21,390 You were thinking that you shouldn't go to see your girlfriend 798 00:37:21,470 --> 00:37:25,200 and then you went to see your girlfriend? 799 00:37:28,240 --> 00:37:29,300 Yeah. 800 00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:31,430 You didn't stop in first to see your wife? 801 00:37:31,510 --> 00:37:32,530 No. 802 00:37:32,610 --> 00:37:35,980 To try to convince her one more time to sign that contract? 803 00:37:36,050 --> 00:37:37,040 No. 804 00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:39,310 Because business was terrible and you needed money. 805 00:37:39,390 --> 00:37:41,510 I didn't need money that badly. 806 00:37:41,850 --> 00:37:44,050 To do something that would hurt my children? 807 00:37:45,290 --> 00:37:46,660 To kill my wife? 808 00:37:46,790 --> 00:37:48,690 It was a desperate situation. 809 00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:51,360 Your projects were failing. You were deep in debt. 810 00:37:51,430 --> 00:37:55,060 I could do other projects, I could do something else. 811 00:37:55,670 --> 00:37:57,500 I might have owed a little money, 812 00:37:58,170 --> 00:38:00,700 but it's not like it was a matter of life or death. 813 00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:02,930 Thank you. 814 00:38:04,310 --> 00:38:06,370 Get that material witness warrant. 815 00:38:09,050 --> 00:38:10,480 It's not what I ever expected, 816 00:38:10,550 --> 00:38:13,420 but I've been drawn into this bizarre murder trial 817 00:38:13,490 --> 00:38:16,390 involving two of our very special families. 818 00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:18,790 Ms. Rubirosa, how did I do? 819 00:38:19,190 --> 00:38:20,820 You were fantastic. 820 00:38:20,890 --> 00:38:23,450 Can I have a word with the cameras off? 821 00:38:23,530 --> 00:38:26,560 Well, only if you promise to give us your full impressions afterwards. 822 00:38:26,630 --> 00:38:28,860 We're airing a special edition Sunday night. 823 00:38:29,100 --> 00:38:32,330 Artie, I think the lines are getting a little bit blurred here. 824 00:38:32,410 --> 00:38:33,600 Can I talk to you, please? 825 00:38:33,670 --> 00:38:35,330 How much longer must this go on? 826 00:38:35,470 --> 00:38:36,530 Not much. 827 00:38:36,780 --> 00:38:39,370 Johnson stepped right into it on the witness stand. 828 00:38:39,450 --> 00:38:42,070 The loan shark, Shiner, will demolish him. 829 00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:43,970 He'll testify? He's gone. 830 00:38:44,780 --> 00:38:47,220 The cops just called. Shiner seems to be out of the country. 831 00:38:47,290 --> 00:38:48,690 Somewhere in the Caribbean. 832 00:38:48,750 --> 00:38:51,250 His associates don't know where he is or when he'll be back. 833 00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:53,220 When did he leave? This morning. 834 00:38:53,290 --> 00:38:54,490 They knew. 835 00:38:54,790 --> 00:38:57,850 The Defense somehow knew you knew about Shiner 836 00:38:57,930 --> 00:38:59,450 and tipped him off to get the hell out of town. 837 00:38:59,530 --> 00:39:01,330 How? How did they know? 838 00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:02,630 Oh, God. 839 00:39:02,770 --> 00:39:03,860 What? 840 00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:05,400 This aired last night. 841 00:39:06,110 --> 00:39:07,900 That's my pad. I carried it out of the courtroom. 842 00:39:07,970 --> 00:39:11,030 I was taking notes while Kramer testified. 843 00:39:16,850 --> 00:39:18,480 The Defense did what you just did. 844 00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:20,880 Now that's reality television. 845 00:39:21,790 --> 00:39:22,980 Yeah. 846 00:39:26,630 --> 00:39:29,860 As our planned rebuttal witness is unavailable, 847 00:39:29,930 --> 00:39:31,590 I have a few more questions. 848 00:39:32,870 --> 00:39:38,300 Mr. Johnson, when did you first become acquainted with Sammy Shiner? 849 00:39:39,670 --> 00:39:40,830 I'm sorry, who? 850 00:39:41,110 --> 00:39:43,700 He's a principal at Uptown Finance, 851 00:39:43,780 --> 00:39:47,580 a company you owed $400,000. 852 00:39:48,310 --> 00:39:51,150 I don't think I met anyone there named Shiner. 853 00:39:51,550 --> 00:39:54,680 But you are aware that the phone call to Mr. Kramer 854 00:39:54,750 --> 00:39:59,250 that was supposedly from your accountant asking about your earnings, 855 00:39:59,330 --> 00:40:01,990 was actually made by someone at Uptown Finance. 856 00:40:02,730 --> 00:40:04,890 I don't know anything about that. 857 00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:07,800 You didn't know you borrowed money 858 00:40:07,870 --> 00:40:10,200 from a notorious loan shark, 859 00:40:10,270 --> 00:40:14,730 who was now taking a close, personal interest in your finances? 860 00:40:15,240 --> 00:40:16,330 No. 861 00:40:16,540 --> 00:40:19,510 Uptown Finance came highly recommended. 862 00:40:20,010 --> 00:40:22,450 It was a normal business transaction. 863 00:40:22,650 --> 00:40:25,210 A normal business transaction 864 00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:27,880 with a man whose nonpaying customers 865 00:40:27,950 --> 00:40:30,250 have a habit of winding up dead. 866 00:40:30,660 --> 00:40:33,450 You had to get your wife to sign that contract 867 00:40:33,530 --> 00:40:34,890 or you risked being murdered. 868 00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:36,830 Objection! Your Honor, if the Prosecution wants to 869 00:40:36,900 --> 00:40:39,760 put someone named Sammy Shiner on trial for loan sharking, 870 00:40:39,830 --> 00:40:42,360 I suggest they launch the appropriate prosecution, 871 00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:44,600 or at least bring him in to testify. 872 00:40:44,670 --> 00:40:47,370 I agree. Mr. Cutter, that's enough. 873 00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:48,960 Do you have anything else? 874 00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:51,970 No, Your Honor. 875 00:41:13,930 --> 00:41:16,230 Has the jury reached a verdict? 876 00:41:16,370 --> 00:41:18,390 Still no progress, Your Honor. 877 00:41:18,470 --> 00:41:20,300 I'll send you back one more time 878 00:41:20,370 --> 00:41:24,170 if you think there's any chance of reaching a unanimous verdict. 879 00:41:24,510 --> 00:41:25,770 I don't think so. 880 00:41:25,850 --> 00:41:28,080 People aren't budging. We're deadlocked. 881 00:41:28,150 --> 00:41:32,210 Very well. I have no choice then, but to declare a mistrial. 882 00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:34,280 I thank the jurors for their service. 883 00:41:34,350 --> 00:41:36,690 The terms of Mr. Johnson's bail are continued 884 00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:39,950 while the state decides whether or not to retry this case. 885 00:41:40,030 --> 00:41:41,190 We're adjourned. 886 00:41:47,300 --> 00:41:50,860 We're searching the Caribbean to rebut Johnson's perjury. 887 00:41:50,970 --> 00:41:54,200 Last we heard, Shiner was either in Anguilla or Antigua. 888 00:41:54,270 --> 00:41:58,270 Meanwhile, the producers have made some changes to Larry Plus Ten. 889 00:41:58,340 --> 00:42:00,740 They're moving his family with the Septomom's 890 00:42:00,810 --> 00:42:02,610 into the same mansion on Long Island. 891 00:42:02,680 --> 00:42:04,480 Along with a human lie detector. 892 00:42:04,550 --> 00:42:07,210 You know, one of those guys who can tell if you're lying by the way you blink. 893 00:42:07,290 --> 00:42:09,750 The idea is to have both families compete for prizes, 894 00:42:09,820 --> 00:42:13,520 and to figure out which head of household murdered Joy Johnson. 895 00:42:13,690 --> 00:42:15,960 The television audience gets to vote. 896 00:42:17,700 --> 00:42:20,760 And they've asked Arthur Branch to be the judge. 897 00:42:23,970 --> 00:42:25,370 You're kidding, right?